Something New, Something More

I don’t know where this speech will fall in the annals of history, but I do know that Obama has confronted the issue head-on, and that has to count for something.

[ht: Julie]


8 thoughts on “Something New, Something More

  1. There is only one thing that I am really curious about. How can someone go to a church for 20 years and not know where their pastor stands? I have been attending mine for only 3 years and have a good idea.

  2. Rick says:

    And do you agree with him on every point? Are there instances where he’s different in demeanor with you than in front of the crowd? I’ve been where he’s at, knowing a different more nuanced side of the man who leads the whole flock. So I don’t fault him so much for that.

  3. Martha says:

    Part of the issue is that Obama had been asserting that he was never present for any of that kind of vitrol (hard to believe to begin with), and then confirmed in his speech that he had witnessed some of it. The other problem that I have is that he’s known this man for umpteen years and been to that church for so long that he expects people to believe that this is all some kind of big surprise.
    Plus this ‘reverend’ not only preaches blatant racism, but he said “G.D. America”, called the “U.S. KKK A.” and teaches that AIDS was invented by the US Gov’t to kill black people. This is the man that led Obama to Christ? And Obama wants to explain this away as being part of the black church experience?
    Sorry, I did not fall off of the turnip truck yesterday.
    Think about this too – what would be happening right now if Hillary Clinton had attended a church for this long and her spiritual mentor and the person that led her to Christ preached the same type of venom against black people? I think we all know the answer to that question – her public life would be over.

  4. Rick says:

    Part of the issue for me, Martha, is that politics tends to turn us into the people we don’t want to be. The fact that someone is running in the first place is probably cause enough to remove him/her from consideration. I disagree with three of your four paragraphs (I saw you fall off the turnip truck in 1985, not yesterday), and I’ve got no response to any of it except to say that I feel more empathetic to him and more empathy from him now than ever before.

  5. Martha says:

    All politicians lie and manipulate – no doubt about that. Glad you can empathize with him, but I can’t empathize with that kind of hate speech as I just don’t have that in me to hang out with people who are that caustic and seem to hate this country as much as Reverend Wright must.
    I don’t think Obama is a bad person or would ever say any of that himself, but I know for me personally I could not associate with anyone who did.

  6. Rick says:

    What I like about Obama, that I haven’t seen in any other candidate since we became “of age” and started voting, is that he isn’t into the hate speech, isn’t into the fear and shame as much as everyone else. And on top of that, there’s still room at his table for the rest of us who do get into that murkiness from time to time.
    If you cut yourself off from everyone with a strong opinion and strong words to show for it, you’ll be lonely. Stay away from Williams-Brice – lots of “hate speech” spewed forth around there.

  7. Steve says:

    Ralph Nader, anyone?

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